Грузия, Тбилиси: требование предоставить Affidavit of Support

V sluchae DV vizy vy ne imeete prava ispol’zovat’ affidavit I-864 - ego prosto ne primut

Это просто ответ на вопрос… там и для 100% и для 125% есть цифры.

Они сами в консульстве в требованиях вроде пишут о 134 форме, но дают ссылки на вопросники 864 формы. Общие вещие есть по этим формам, поэтому видимо и отсылают на вопросники 864-ой формы.

I raschet kolichestva chlenov sem’i inoi v obscem sluchae.

в каком смысле ? можно по подробней ?

N epomniu no dlia I-864 oni bolee jestkie.

Здравствуйте.
Читаю ветку и обидно становится что, имея достаточно денег на счету, приходится искать спонсора непонятно где.
У меня вопрос: Спонсор должен заполнять форму на каждого спонсируемого? То есть если нас четверо в семье, то спонсор должен 4 формы одинаковые заполнять на каждого из нас?

Можно указать всех разом в одной форме…

1 лайк

Спасибо! А жена спонсора тоже должна заполнять эту форму для нас?

Esli u sponsora net deneg, to mojet zapolnit’ ego jena

1 лайк

Да, обязательно.

1 лайк

Раевский, по правилам Грузии, если человек женат, то его супруга должна тоже обязательно заполнять. В других странах сказать не могу…

1 лайк

I-134 - eto sovsem ne I-864. Eto sovershenno drugoi affidavit s sovershenno inymi pravilami. Nichego podobnogo ne nujno, ne nado vydumyvat’

1 лайк

Вот требование по Грузии. http://photos.state.gov/libraries/georgia/538077/kharabadzem/instr-dv-eng_001.pdf
Пункт 11.
b) If the sponsor is married, his or her spouse should also present a signed FormI-134, accompanied by a photocopy of the U.S. passport or legal permanent resident card of the spouse of the sponsor.
И я не выдумываю…

1 лайк

Eto polnaia lipa.
Sravnite stranicu
http://photos.state.gov/libraries/georgia/538077/kharabadzem/instr-dv-eng_001.pdf (p.11)
i
http://photos.state.gov/libraries/georgia/538077/kharabadzem/instr-iv-eng.pdf (p.12)

Oni zamenili i-864 na i-134 i daje ne pomeniali linki na stranicu pro affidavit.
Ves’ etot p.11 na stranice http://photos.state.gov/libraries/georgia/538077/kharabadzem/instr-iv-eng.pdf soderjit sovershenno nevernuiu informaciu.

Остался главный вопрос - где найти спонсора!?

Чтобы они там не поменяли, но они всех разворачивают без этого афидавита…
Вот линк: Diversity Visa Lottery | Embassy of the United States Georgia

Osnovnye pravila ispol’zovania I-134:

9 FAM 40.41 N4.6-3 Use of Form I-134, Affidavit of Support
(CT:VISA-1931; 10-10-2012)
a. Form I-134 may be requested by you in any case in which an alien is
inadmissible on public charge grounds, but where the I-864 is not required.
Section 213 of the INA (not section 213A) permits the admission of any alien
who is inadmissible on public charge grounds in the discretion of the Secretary
of the Department of Homeland Security or the Attorney General, by the
posting of a bond, or by another undertaking. The I-134 is considered to be
another such undertaking.

b. Because INA 212(a)(4)(C) and INA 213A require the use of Form I-864 for so
many classes of immigrants, the use of Form I-134, Affidavit of Support, has
been reduced considerably. Nevertheless, there still are circumstances when
Form I-134 will be beneficial. This affidavit, submitted by the applicant at your
request, is not legally binding on the sponsor and should not be accorded the
same weight as Form I-864. Form I-134 should be given consideration as one
form of evidence, however, in conjunction with the other forms of evidence
mentioned below.

c. If you determine that any of the following types of applicants need an Affidavit
of Support to meet the public charge requirement, they may use Form I-134,
as they are not authorized to use Form I-864 or I-864W:
(1) Returning resident aliens (SBs);
(2) Diversity visa applicants (DVs); and
(3) Fiancé(e)s (K1s or K3s)

d. The simple submission of Form I-134, Affidavit of Support, however, is not
sufficient to establish that the beneficiary is not likely to become a public
charge. Although the minimum income requirements of Form I-864, do not
apply in such cases (e.g., the 125 percent minimum income amount which is
only required by the I-864), you must make a thorough evaluation of other
factors, such as:
(1) The sponsor’s motives in submitting the affidavit;
(2) The sponsor’s relationship to the applicant (e.g., relative by blood or
marriage, former employer or employee, schoolmates, or business
associates);
(3) The length of time the sponsor and applicant have known each other;
(4) The sponsor’s financial resources; and
(5) Other responsibilities of the sponsor.
NOTE: When there are compelling or forceful ties between the applicant and
the sponsor, such as a close family relationship or friendship of long standing,
you may favorably consider the affidavit. On the other hand, an affidavit
submitted by a casual friend or distant relative who has little or no personal
knowledge of the applicant has more limited value. If the sponsor is not a U.S.
citizen or lawful permanent resident (LPR), the likelihood of the sponsor’s
support of an immigrant visa (IV) applicant until the applicant can become selfsupporting
is a particularly important consideration.

e. The degree of corroborative detail necessary to support the affidavit will vary
depending upon the circumstances. For example, for a relatively short-term
visitor, little, if any, would be required. In immigrant cases, however, the
sponsor’s statement should include:
(1) Information regarding income and resources;
(2) Financial obligations for the support of immediate family members and
other dependents;
(3) Other obligations and expenses; and
(4) Plans and arrangements made for the applicant’s support in the absence of
a legal obligation toward the applicant.

f. To substantiate the information regarding income and resources, the sponsor
should attach to the affidavit a copy of the latest Federal income tax return filed
prior to the signing of the Form I-134, including all supporting schedules. If
you determine that the tax return and/or additional evidence in the file do not
establish the sponsor’s financial ability to carry out the commitment toward the
immigrant for what might be an indefinite period of time, or there is a specific
reason (other than the passage of time) to question the veracity of the income
stated on the Form I-134 or the accompanying document(s), you should
request additional evidence (i.e., statement from an employer showing the
sponsor’s salary and the length and permanency of employment, recent pay
statements, or other financial data).

g. If the sponsor has a well-established business and submits a rating from a
recognized business rating organization, you do not need to insist on a copy of
the sponsor’s latest income tax return or other evidence

Ispol’zovanie affidavita I-134 reguliruetsia stat’ei INA 213, a I-864 - stat’ei INA 213A. Eto sovershenno raznye stat’i i pravila ih ispol’zovania sovershenno raznye

Oni ne mogut razvorachivat’ teh u kogo est’ sredstva.

Да, разворачивают. Если 50000 виз в год раздают, то скоро все население Америки станет спонсорами. И где же их искать а?

Я все понимаю и возмущаюсь ( и не только я ), но они самовольничают и как я и говорю, разворачивают всех. А основной сайт грин карты им потакает словами (линк - 404 - Page Not Found):
You should prepare thoroughly and carefully for your interview. Failure to be fully prepared for your interview at the U.S. Embassy or Consulate can result in delay or denial of the visa. It is important that you follow any additional instructions provided by the Embassy or Consulate on the Interview Preparation – Embassy Guidelines webpage