Повторный въезд по иммиграционной визе

Для тех, кто собирается в США. Продление, сохранение и смена статуса
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Dear Consul,

I think that I haven’t explain my problem in a proper, clear way, I apologies. Let me explain it again.

I have been granted an Immigrant Visa IR5 and have entered US on 07/XX/2008. As a US permanent resident I was awaiting the receipt of my Permanent Resident card, but I had to go back to Belarus due to family reasons prior to receiving the card.

I’m planning to return to the United States on 2/28/2009. The only way for me to get to USA is airplane. Any of available airlines departing from Belarus, Russia, Ukraine, etc. have the same boarding rule for trans-Atlantic flights to the USA - a US permanent resident passenger must provide a plastic I-551 card or a transportation letter from a US consulate, or a reentry permit that I do not have. So the only way for me to board a flight is the transportation letter, since I do not have a plastic I-551 card yet. Again, all airlines operating in the mentioned contries, require this prooof regardless of departing country.
That means, I will not be able to get to the US without the transportation letter.

At the same time it is within your authority to issue a transportation letter for me.

Here is the information that I have found on http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/88020.pdf :
9 FAM 301.2 Procedures in Emergency Circumstances
(TL:VISA-278; 05-11-2001)
If the alien has firm travel reservations and time does not permit normal processing of form I-90, the consular officer must first interview the applicant to confirm his or her identity, and, if satisfied, determine which of the three procedures described below is appropriate. In most cases, replies will be received within five working days or, at most, in 10. However, further delays may occur in cases where the applicant lacks adequate secondary evidence establishing permanent resident status. [See 9 FAM PART IV Appendix N, 301.2-3.] The form I-90 fee should not be charged in these cases, since it will be collected by INS when the alien arrives in the United States and applies for a new Form I-551.

9 FAM 301.2-1 Alien’s Passport Contains ADIT Stamp
(TL:VISA-278; 05-11-2001)
a. When the applicant presents a passport with an Alien Documentation and Identification System (ADIT) stamp, indicating admission to the United States as a lawful permanent resident alien (or adjustment to that status), a boarding authorization letter [see 9 FAM PART IV Appendix N, Exhibit VIA] may be issued within the validity of the stamp (normally six months) at the discretion of the consular officer, without referral to INS/HQ for verification.
b. In exercising this discretionary authority, the consular officer should make all reasonable efforts locally to verify the alien’s claimed status, by checking local card files if the immigrant visa was issued at post, or, if the visa was issued by another post, verifying the issuance through the issuing post. The consular officer should also be aware, however, that there have been cases of passports with counterfeit ADIT stamps. The ADIT stamp reads:
PROCESSED FOR I-551 TEMPORARY EVIDENCE OF LAWFUL ADMISSION FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE VALID UNTIL (DATE) EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZED.

There is the following note in my immigrant visa:
UPON ENDORSEMENT SERVES AS TEMPORARY I-551 EVIDENCING PERMANENT RESIDENCE FOR 1 YEAR

I have the endorsement mentioned, and the year has not passed yet, so my documents are equivalent to ADIT stamp. So I think I’m eligible for transportation letter.

I’m kindly asking for your attention to my case.

Thank you,
Regards,
XXXX

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Voz’mite tekst snova. Ia zametil escio odno vhojdenie slova eligibility, kotoroe mne prishlos’ tut je udalit’.

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Уже отправил… :letmein: Послать ещё раз?

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Poshlite.

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Если бы не было в руках пластиковой GC, то я наверно бы очень нервничал. Вот что ответили на последнее письмо:

Dear XXX,

Thank you for your message. As you mentioned in your e-mail you have a valid US immigrant status which is indicated in your I-551 stamp in your Belarusian passport. In such cases travel letters are not required. You can contact DHS Moscow at +7 495 728 5236 for further explanations.

Regards,

The Consular Section

Упорно отказываются брать во внимание момент с правилами авиалиний. Причём эти правила наверняка были введены с подачи USCIS.

Господин Раевский, стоит им написать ещё раз про правила авиалиний (может жирным выделить)? Просто если такая возможность есть - то почему они упорно отказываются?

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Ia dumaiu, vam nado naiti na websaite kakoi-nibu’ avialinii ih pravila, iz kotoryh sleduet, chto bez transportation letter ne pustiat. Naskol’ko ia ponimaiu, Lufthansa doljna priderjivat’sia takih pravil.

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Delta. Idete na http://www.delta.com/planning_reservations/plan_flight/international_travel_information/visa_passport_information/index.jsp

Vstavliaete grajdanstvo Belarus, permanent resident USA, going to USA. Poluchaete trebovania:

/ 15JAN09 / 2119 UTC

National Belarus (BY) /Residence U.S.A. (US)
Destination U.S.A. (US)

U.S.A. (US)

Passport required.

  • Those residing in the U.S.A. may enter with travel documents
    valid on arrival.
    Passport Exemptions:
  • Residents of the U.S.A. if holding:
  • Permanent Resident/Resident Alien Card (Form I-551);
  • U.S. “Permit to Re-Enter” (Form I-327);
  • Holders of a valid on arrival Form I-512 ( Authorization for

Parole of an Alien into the United States").

  • Holders of a Temporary or Emergency passports.
  • Holders of a Transportation Letter:

Visa required, except for Residents of the U.S.A. if holding:

  • Permanent Resident/Resident Alien Card (Form I-551);
  • U.S. “Permit to Re-Enter” (Form I-327);
    Visa required, except for Holders of a Form I-512
    ( Authorization for Parole of an Alien into the United

States").
Visa required, except for Holders of the Transportation

Letter":
Minors:

  • Children, up to/incl. 15 years of age,
    For details, click here
    Additional Information:
  • An expired Permanent Resident/Resident Alien Card (Form
    I-551) with a 10-years validity at time of issuance, is

acceptable only if the alien has not been absent from the
U.S. more than 180 days.
Note: For details, click here

  • If the passport shows a stamp "processed for I-551 temporary
    evidence of lawful admittance for permanent residence valid
    until receipt of I-551 employment authorized , such stamp is

to be considered Form I-551.

CHECK TINEWS/N1 - ELECTRONIC SYSTEM FOR TRAVEL
AUTHORIZATION (ESTA) FOR VWP TRAVELLERS TO THE U.S.A.

Timaticweb Version 1.3
15 January 2009

Tem samym, delta sajaet s I-551 card ili s transportation letter, no ne s I-551 shtampom. Takje delta sajaet s reentry permitom i advance parolem. No vot so shtampom I-551 ona ne sajaet.

Tak je postupaiut i inye kompanii. Imenno v etom i sostoit smysl transportation letter

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Господин Раевский! Спасибо большое что нашли эту информацию! Сейчас составлю письмо.

:flo:

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Господин Раевский, достаточно ли понятно я изложил аргумент?

Dear Consul!
Thank you for the reply. As I have stated in my previous email, I need the transportation letter to be able to check in for the flight.
Here is the information that I have found:
There is a possibility to check required documents for check in for the flight to USA here:
http://www.delta.com/planning_reservations/plan_flight/international_travel_information/visa_passport_information/index.jsp

My citizenship is Belarus and I’m alien resident of the USA. Here is the list of required documents in my case:

Visa required, except for Residents of the U.S.A. if holding:

  • Permanent Resident/Resident Alien Card (Form I-551);
  • U.S. “Permit to Re-Enter” (Form I-327);
    Visa required, except for Holders of a Form I-512
    ( Authorization for Parole of an Alien into the United States").
    Visa required, except for Holders of the Transportation

I don’t have:
Permanent Resident/Resident Alien Card (Form I-551)
Re-entry permit (I wasn’t absent for more than 180 days, so I could apply for it)
I’m not authorized for Parole.

So the only way to be able to check in for any airline is to obtain a Transportation letter. All airlines follow these rules.

Thank you for your attention.

Regards,
XXX

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edik84, м.б. это вам поможет?
http://www.ailf.org/lac/pa/lac_pa_11607.pdf

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Полезный документик, спасибо. Это правда контора, которая оказывает юридические услуги, но в документе есть полезная инфа по моему кейсу. Почитав, я понял, что даже если мне бы и дали Transportation letter, то только в Москве - в документе есть ссылка на так называемые Immigration Overseas Offices, которые занимаются подобными вопросами. Ближайший к Минску (учитывая Шенген) - в Москве. Так что пришлось бы ехать в Москву. НО! пластиковая GC всё-таки дошла по почте и вопрос уже снят, хотел просто довести до логического конца, вдруг кому понадобится инфа когда-нибудь…
Напишу сейчас ещё письмо, что они скажут.

Спасибо за внимание к теме!

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Dear Consul,

Thank you for the reply. As I have stated in my previous email, I need the transportation letter to be able to check in for the flight.
Here is the information that I have found:
There is a possibility to check required documents for check in for the flight to USA here:
http://www.delta.com/planning_reservations/plan_flight/international_travel_information/visa_passport_information/index.jsp

My citizenship is Belarus and I’m alien resident of the USA. This is Delta airline response for my citizenship and permanent residency information for the flights to US:
– ---------------------------- beginning of delta requirements-----------------------------
/ 15JAN09 / 2119 UTC

National Belarus (BY) /Residence U.S.A. (US)
Destination U.S.A. (US)

U.S.A. (US)

Passport required.

  • Those residing in the U.S.A. may enter with travel documents
    valid on arrival.
    Passport Exemptions:

  • Residents of the U.S.A. if holding:

  • Permanent Resident/Resident Alien Card (Form I-551);

  • U.S. “Permit to Re-Enter” (Form I-327);

  • Holders of a valid on arrival Form I-512 ( Authorization for Parole of an Alien into the United States").

  • Holders of a Temporary or Emergency passports.

  • Holders of a Transportation Letter:

Visa required, except for Residents of the U.S.A. if holding:

  • Permanent Resident/Resident Alien Card (Form I-551);

  • U.S. “Permit to Re-Enter” (Form I-327);
    Visa required, except for Holders of a Form I-512
    ( Authorization for Parole of an Alien into the United States").
    Visa required, except for Holders of the Transportation Letter":
    Minors:

  • Children, up to/incl. 15 years of age, For details, click here
    Additional Information:

  • An expired Permanent Resident/Resident Alien Card (Form
    I-551) with a 10-years validity at time of issuance, is

acceptable only if the alien has not been absent from the
U.S. more than 180 days.
Note: For details, click here

  • If the passport shows a stamp "processed for I-551 temporary
    evidence of lawful admittance for permanent residence valid
    until receipt of I-551 employment authorized , such stamp is

to be considered Form I-551.

CHECK TINEWS/N1 - ELECTRONIC SYSTEM FOR TRAVEL
AUTHORIZATION (ESTA) FOR VWP TRAVELLERS TO THE U.S.A.

Timaticweb Version 1.3
15 January 2009
------------------------------ end of delta requirements-----------------------------

So, here is the list of required documents for US permanent residents:

  • Permanent Resident/Resident Alien Card (Form I-551);
  • U.S. “Permit to Re-Enter” (Form I-327);
  • Transportation Letter

I don’t have either of those documents, as I described

So the only way to be able to check in for any airline is to obtain a Transportation letter, as I am not required to apply for reentry permit and wait for it’s processing for ages for a short trip. I inquired several other airlines, and was not able to find any one which accepts ADIT stamp or it’s substitutes for boarding.

According to http://www.ailf.org/lac/pa/lac_pa_11607.pdf

------ beggining of quote-------
Transportation letters often are issued to permanent residents whose LPR card is lost, stolen or expired. They also can be issued to parolees under INA § 212(d)(5), asylees, refugees, and certain returning temporary residents. AILF has found no legal authority limiting the use of transportation letters to these situations.
------ end of quote-------

Thank you for your attention.

Regards,
XXX

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После отправки полного фактов, ссылок и грамотных объяснений письма, любезного подготовленного господином Раевским, получил “наивный” (без обид, так и есть) ответ консула:

Dear Ms. XXX,

Thank you for your message. Once again we have checked your IV records in our system. It appears that you should not need a transportation letter. Your current visa stamp serves in lieu of plastic copy of I-551. It should be valid for reentry the US till 07/XX/2009. This is clearly explained in a footnote of your visa stamp. If you have a problem in getting a transit visa to a Schengen country the appropriate Consular office can contact our office for further explanations. From our experience, all airlines conducting flights from and to the US are aware of this rule.

Sincerely,

The Consular Section

  1. Как правильно посоветовал Раевский, не надо было вообще про Шенгенскую визу говорить. Сейчас они думают что я из-за этого им пишу.
  2. Также, несмотря на ссылку на Дельту, приведённую в предыдущем письме, они (он) (она) всё равно не верят, что на самолёт не посадят.

Стоит ли пытаться дальше доказывать?
Я попрошу маму спросить, когда будет check in делать, посалили бы её или нет без пластиковой GC.

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Vash email prochitali nevnimatel’no, i sdelat’ chto-to ot vashego imeni uje slojno.

Esli by vam deistvitel’no nujno bylo transportation letter, to vam by sledovalo podat’ formal’nyi zapros na nego, zaplativ $165. Oni doljny byli by vashe zaiavlenie formal’no rassmotret’, chto seichas oni delat’ ne obiazany.
Seichas u vas takaia vozmojnost’ est’ lish’ esli vy hotite izbavit’sia ot etih deneg.

Esli vas interesuet vozmojnost’ lishnii raz udostoverit’sia zabesplatno, mojete li vy poluchit’ transportation letter, vy mojete sprosit’ ob etom v konsul’stve v Varshave. Po emailu.

Na otvet pri posadke raschityvat’ nel’zia. Esli by pis’ma ne bylo, i plastika toje, oni by pozvali supervizora dlia vyiasnenia otveta. A seichas supervizora nikto zvat’ ne budet dlia otveta na vopros iz interesa.

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Я напишу email в Варшаву и в Москву. Постараюсь не спрашивать лишнего. Спасибо за ответ! :flo:

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Имел опыт повторного въезда по иммиграционной визе без пластика, летел Аэрофлотом. На дату повторного вылета иммиграционная виза была просрочена. Волнение было, т.к. служащий компании на регистрации не знал что с нами делать - пропустить в самолет или нет. После консультации по рации с “эмиграцией” (как я понял с пограничником) всё таки пропустили. “Эмиграция”, со знанием вопроса, поинтересовалась о наличии штампа с датой въезда на визе… Так что, должны и в ЛОТе эти правила знать.

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U kajdoi aviakompanii svoi formal’nye pravila. Kak my videli, Delta ne posadit

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U kajdoi aviakompanii svoi formal’nye pravila. Kak my videli, Delta ne posadit

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Разве эта фраза:

If the passport shows a stamp "processed for I-551 temporary
evidence of lawful admittance for permanent residence valid
until receipt of I-551 employment authorized , such stamp is to be considered Form I-551.

не говорит о том что штамп на иммиграционной визе рассматривается как форма I-551 и тем самым Delta допускает на борт человека в паспорте которого на иммиграционной визе стоит этот штамп.

Или я не правильно понял эту фразу?

P.S. взято отсюда: http://www.timaticweb.com/cgi-bin/tim_website_client.cgi?SpecData=1&VISA=&page=visa&NA=RU&AR=US&PASSTYPES=PASS&DE=US&user=DL&subuser=DELTAB2C

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Shtamp I-551 ne stavitsia na immigracionnuiu vizu. On stavitsia v pasport, i k vize otnoshenia ne imeet